Some random, uninformed thoughts about the coming end of the United States auto industry:
I’m enjoying the way a lot of Senators, pundits, and even the car company execs themselves are talking as if they just finished reading David Halberstam’s The Reckoning
, which was published over twenty years ago and made the case that the industry was…sorry about this…driving itself into the ground, basically by operating as if the 1950s never ended, that gas would always be plentiful and cheap, that Americans would buy any big shiny piece of metal as long as it went fast and said Ford or GM or Chrysler on it somewhere, that they would turn in these big shiny pieces of metal for new big shiny pieces of metal every four or five years, that the country would keep building more and more miles of highway and these highways would never fill up or become too expensive to build and maintain, and that there would never be any real competition to force the auto industry to re-think any of these assumptions.
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You have to admire the patience with which the Unions went about destroying the industry. Took them 70 fucking years to do it and they had to grit their teeth and accept thirty odd years of staggering success for the car companies. Really. Imagine how hard it must have been, given their nefarious plan, to sit back and watch the auto industry sell its cars like hot cakes throughout the 50s and 60s and even into the 70s and then again in the late 80s and early 90s. It must have been especially tough to keep up the good fight while the car companies were slashing American jobs and outsourcing much of the manufacturing of parts and even whole cars to Mexico. The Unions’ best weapon for destroying the industry was well-paid union labor and there was less and less of that around Detroit. “Don’t worry,” Union members must have consoled each other, “Pretty soon we’ll get another Republican President who will let the economy tank in order to pay for a needless war and give his Vice-President’s rich friends and cronies gigantic tax cuts and let a completely unregulated Wall Street devour itself.”
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The oil crisis staggered the industry, but it might have dealt with it by learning how to compete with the Japanese and the Germans except that Ronald Reagan came along in the nick of time to tell them they didn’t have to. Reagan, offering another one of those great, bold new ideas the Media praised Conservatives for, declared that conservation was simply being too hot in the summer and too cold in the winter, and to hell with it. So instead of encouraging the industry to figure out how to build cars that ran well and drank less gas, he gave them permission to save their bottom lines and stock prices by selling lots of gullible Americans tricked-out pick-up trucks that couldn’t really haul anything, were hard to handle, guzzled gas, and made life on the road more dangerous for everybody who did not drive an SUV.
The cars GM and Ford and Chrysler were building during the gas crisis were very, very, very thirsty, but they were also big shiny pieces of junk. Knobs fell off, doors wouldn’t close tight, they rusted out in a winter, they broke down a lot, they handled like ocean liners. If you wanted a well-built car and you could afford it, you bought a German car. If you could only afford junk, you were better off buying Japanese because at least they didn’t need to be filled up every other day. (Eventually, the Japanese stopped selling junk, too.) To be fair to the Americans, this is one area in which the industry has improved over the last twenty years. American cars are much better built now. You can put 150 to 200 thousand miles on one, own it for 10 or 15 years, and still have to think it over before you decide it really is time to buy a new car, and even then “new” might be a relative term because you can get a “pre-owned” vehicle with 40 or 50 thousand miles on it that will last another 10 years, if you take care of it. This is something for the industry to be proud of, but it’s also a problem—because people don’t need to buy a new car every few years, the industry can’t sell as many cars as it’s been building.
American auto workers should not be making less money or have to take a cut in benefits or say goodbye to their pensions. But there probably should be fewer auto workers. I’m not up to date on how automated the auto industry is. I don’t know how many jobs that used to be done by human beings are now done by robots but I suspect that it’s not as many as can be. But besides that, the car companies should be making fewer cars. Not just because the economy’s gone south and people can’t afford to buy new cars but—see above—we don’t need as many new cars as we once did.
Jobs should be phased out. Over time.
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We’re about to phase out tens of thousands of them all at once, which wouldn’t be a good thing even if the economy was humming along at a Clinton-era clip. I don’t care what you think of GM, letting it and Chrysler go under is not punishing the rich executives who screwed things up. It’s punishing the whole country. The rich executives will be fine, because they’re RICH!!!!! The auto workers and the people who make the parts and the people who drive the trucks delivering all the parts and cars and the steel workers and the glassmakers and the salespeople and accountants and secretaries and mechanics at the dealerships and the parts supply stores are not rich. They’re barely middle class. When they lose their jobs, they’ll lose everything. What are they supposed to do for a living? And what about all the people who make their livings selling things to those people who are suddenly too poor to buy anything? Toyota and Honda are not going to hire them all or even any of them. Senators from states with non-unionized auto plants who are thinking those plants are going to get a whole lot busier once there’s no competition from Detroit are dreaming. There won’t be enough of us left who can afford to buy any cars, no matter where they’re made.
If America stops making cars, what will we make? What industries will we have left? Except for computers, we have no electronics industry here. We have virtually no steel industry left. We don’t make our own clothes. We farm less and less of our own food. We build some appliances. We make candy. We make movies and TV shows. But mostly what we do here is mine stuff and cut stuff down in order to sell it to countries that do make things and then we consume what they make.
There’s a term for a country that exists in order to supply another country with raw materials for its manufacturing and to be a market for it—Third World Nation.
I understand while despising them Republicans who want to kill the auto industry in order to break the Unions and punish Midwesterners for voting for Democrats and sabotage the Obama Administration before it even takes office. I don’t understand why more Democrats aren’t screaming bloody murder. Evan Bayh, whose state is home to vestiges of the vestigial steel industry, not to mention auto plants and parts factories, and who really is concerned and wants to save the car companies, sounds fatigued by the whole mess. Christopher Dodd sounds like a banker who wants us to feel sorry for him because he has to put the widow and orphans out on the street. Harry Reid sounds the way Harry Reid always does in times of crisis when strong Democratic leadership is called for, like an apologetic and embarrassed husband with a bad back watching his wife struggle to move the furniture.
Of course I could be judging the Democrats unfairly. The crisis is being covered as a business story and all business stories in this country are reported as if they’re coming straight from the Chamber of Commerce’s newsletter. Angry, populist-sounding Democrats cause reporters to shut their notebooks and turn off their cameras, anyway, whatever the story. But as far as I’ve heard, only Barney Frank sounds mad.
And he’s mad at Barack Obama.
I’m afraid that it’s as dday says, the Senate’s reluctance to help the auto industry, which has been trying to fix itself, to the tune of 34 billion dollars while writing a no-strings attached check for 750 billion and growing for the financial industry, which wanted the money so that it could go on doing the same stupid and criminal things it had been doing to cause its crisis shows:
…how completely in bed Congress is with the financial industry. The CEO of Citigroup didn’t have to agree to take $1 in salary. The head of Goldman Sachs didn’t have to drive to Washington. Nobody on Wall Street had to agree to major reregulation as a precondition for a bailout…
…if Detroit contributes to campaigns, Wall Street bankrolls them.
I’ll give dday the last word here too:
It’s still pretty shameful that an industry that pushes paper back and forth and pretends to create wealth can ask for and receive hundreds of billions of dollars by snapping their fingers, while companies representing working people that make things for a living have to grovel and beg. A deindustrialized America is an America that will not function as a first-rate power in the future.
Update: Economist Thomas Palley writes, “The financial crisis that began in 2007 has been persistently marked by muddled thinking and haphazard policymaking. Now, the United States Treasury is headed for a mistake of historic and catastrophic proportions by refusing to bail out America’s Big Three automakers.”
Read his post, Motor City Meltdown.
Hat tip to Stormy at Angry Bear.